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Title	Gertrude Stein seminar
Performer(s)	Waldman, Anne.
Subject 1	Stein, Gertrude, 1874-1946.
Abstract	The third in a series of classes taught by Anne Waldman on Gertrude Stein. This class deals with Melanctha, naturalism, and The Making of America. Students read Steins portraits of Cezanne, Matisse, and Picasso. A few students also share their perspectives on Steins work by reading pieces of writing and commenting on and discussing the work.
Content	cuts into Anne Waldman reading about Gertrude Stein's writing as logicality as basis for literary action. She then quotes Stein talking about sight, sound and sense and eliminating grammar and continues to read the commentary regarding Steins usage of language. There is then commentary on the US and its government with the purpose of art being a human expression of this understanding and relationship. She then continues to talk of "Melanctha" by reading from an unknown source. 8:55 Anne opens it up to the class to find out their response of what she read. Based on student response Anne rereads section about the focus of writer on scene. Student comments that points have to be exploded out of reality for it to come forth. 10:15 man makes comment (hard to hear) Anne retorts back, but the man's initial comment is hard to hear. Anne then comments on writing as therapy and writing as art. What is being said in this article is that the writing is not infected by the path. This is a point of Stein to understand. Her theme is writing. To look at "Melanctha" it is possible to review it as a case study. The writer is like a magpie. 12:45 woman then makes comment regarding the presentation of this article that was read. This person turns out to be William Carlos Williams who is commenting on Gertrude Stein. Stein was not accepted during her initial state of writing. 14:22 Anne then talks about the essays she provided the class and the varied perspectives provided. There is also comments about the vulnerability about the statements Stein made when she was talking about writing. Anne mentions "Tristan Shanty" about writing for writings sake. Then Anne segues into naturalist writing. 18:18 Anne talks more about naturalism and "Melanctha" being a representation of this. Student asks about Flaubert and realism and the difference between realism and naturalism. Anne then poses the question what is Kerouac? The definitions begin to blend. Anne then restates that Stein does not fit neatly into a category. But also look at Proust, Virginia Wolf, and Joyce. There is a difficulty with this. All are concerned with time and stream of consciousness in a sense. 27:58 Student comment about Emile Zola and a question about Stein's reaction to Proust. Anne then takes the class back to reading from William Carlos William's comments on Stein and movements of passion. 30:30 Anne then directs class to compare a page of Proust, Wolf and Stein and see what they are doing with time as a way to get perspective on Stein. It is important to remember that not all of this work was available to the respective writer when they were writing. If anything, Stein was more influenced by the painters. 32:24 student, Robert, reads his piece on time called "a sense of time." 35:01 woman student challenges his view on time. [very hard to hear!!] and lots of students talking about meaning and reading and time - lots of scuttle in the class with students talking over one another. Anne jumps in talking about Apollo hunting for stones. Anne then asks how this relates to Stein. Man responds that there is semantic units within her work. Man feels like Steins process is less interesting than her writing. He feels like process should be kept to the self and not shared. Anne feels that the process takes you back to the writing and seems very related. Woman relates back to Williams' article and that Stein is making progression not progress. 42:55 Anne then applauds the man for defining between product and process. Another man jumps in about her perspective regarding this also. More banter regarding process and product from the class. 46:05 Anne asks another student to read their piece. 46:36 tape ends 46:44 cuts into man discussing the class about Gertrude Stein with a woman piping in that it is difficult to separate the writer from their work 47:20 new man talking about his work and investigation into repetition 50:00 new man reads from his piece regarding Stein 54:55 Anne begins to read from pg 329 of an unknown book and then has a female student continue reading. It is commentary from Stein on the "Making of Americans" with comments from students and Anne regarding Cubism and Cezanne. Discussion leads to writing to break the portrait instead of directly stating a portrait 60:47 man reading portrait of Matisse by Stein with a few other students jumping in to read sections also with a little following commentary about the portraits that have been created in that the Matisse portrait talks more about the man than his work 72:10 Anne talking about the past tense and how it highlighted Stein's commentary regarding Matisse - student mentions present tense and another student then talks about cinema and viewing frame-by-frame - Anne pushes students to get beyond personal preferences and to the point of what she is doing and the substance inherent 76:20 Anne has students read portrait on Picasso 82:00 student commentary 83:25 reference to page 334 88:40 Anne assigns students work and there is discussion about schedules and upcoming events 93:23 tape ends
Type of Event	class
Engineer's Notes	fine hard to hear in many parts
Date Recorded	1989-09-20
File Format	mp3
Performance Length	1:33:23
Rights Information	Copyright release given to Naropa University for the purposes of preservation, maketing and educational use. All other rights reserved to individual performers.
Department	Writing
Original Format	audio cassette
Format Description	normalunknown
Publisher	Allen Ginsberg Library and Naropa University Archives
Type	Sound
Language	eng
File Name	89P192.mp3

Gertrude Stein seminar

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